Tesla All-Hands (Q1 2025)
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0:01Elon MuskOur mission is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy. It's only possible to because of the incredible people here at Tesla. They are absolutely committed to the cause of sustainable energy and that is why we can do what no other company can do.
0:24Elon MuskWe can make lower cost products that are still efficient and compelling and we can make them at scale. We're going to build them all in compact and high output factories that are easy for us to build quickly.
0:33Elon MuskWe work together in a way that allows us to, to ask the hard questions. This is the product that will retire fossil fuels.
0:43Tesla filmWe're not just creating products, we're creating a movement for sustainable energy for everyone.
0:49Elon MuskWhat we're trying to convey is a message of hope and optimism. Optimism that is based on actual physics. Earth can and will move to a sustainable energy economy and will do so in your lifetime.
1:06Elon MuskThe solution to scalable FSD is getting the architecture, the data and the compute just right. And we have assembled a world class team to execute on this. Every truck that we put on the road that replaces a diesel truck makes a huge difference towards driving us towards our total mission of sustainable energy and transportation.
1:26Elon MuskYou can see and you can feel,
1:28Tesla filmfeel the collaboration that's happening and the pride that everyone has in working for Tesla.
1:48Elon MuskAll right,
1:54Elon MuskWell, let me start off first by, by thanking everyone at Tesla for your incredible hard work. I mean, the Tesla team is an incredible team, great human beings like, I mean, anyway, some of the finest people in the world work at Tesla designing and manufacturing our incredible products.
2:16Elon MuskSo my thanks to you for everything. You're doing well, well done.
2:29Elon MuskSo we're going to go through just a list of the incredible achievements of the Tesla team. We've now produced over 7 million vehicles. 7 million.
2:46Elon MuskIn our first year of production, we produced just over 20 vehicles. And I thought, well, maybe we can be, we might one day be able to do 10 or 20 a week instead of 10 or 20 a year.
2:59Elon MuskAnd the way things are tracking right now, we will actually have made over 10 million vehicles next year. So we'll pass the 10 million vehicle cumulative. That's a lot of cars, man.
3:11Elon MuskThat's a lot of cars.
3:14AudienceSo,
3:17Elon Muskso it's really, and it's incredibly difficult as you know, to design, to build, to manage the supply chain with thousands of suppliers, make sure everything arrives, you've got tens of thousands of parts, make sure everything works, then build the car, service the car.
3:33Elon MuskAnd it's, it's, it's really difficult. I mean this, frankly, the carpenters is a tough business. So but, and you know, there are times when there are rocky moments, like things are like a little bit of stormy weather.
3:53Elon MuskBut what I'm here to tell you is that the future is incredibly bright and exciting and we're going to do things that no one, I think has even dreamed of.
4:03Elon MuskYou know, we've said we're going to do it, but I think until we actually do it, people won't believe just how incredible it is. So I'm going to go through all of the things that we're accomplishing here.
4:16Elon MuskSo once again, thank you very much. So,
4:26Elon MuskYou know, it's worth noting that Tesla remains the company of choice for people to work for. So we get millions of applications per year for a very small number of spots and we continue to be the leading organization along with SpaceX, for engineering talent in the world and also for manufacturing talent.
4:45Elon MuskReally for. It's like, it's an awesome place to work basically. And because of our growth, there's a lot of opportunity for upward mobility. And I'm going to talk you through just how I see the future unfolding and why I think it is going to be incredible.
5:04Elon MuskSo first of all, as always, we care a lot about safety. So the safety of our cars and the safety of people within the factory. So you can see that our work related injuries have declined over time.
5:18Elon MuskSo thank you for helping make that happen. That's a collaborative effort. So congratulations to the safety team on continuing to improve workplace safety.
5:36Elon MuskSo one of the things that may seem like, how do you pull it all together is, you know, where does AI and robots fit in this sort of sustainable energy picture?
5:46Elon MuskLike, is that just like some weird side project or what? You know, but it's. Because what we're really aiming for here is maybe a better way to think of it rather than sustainable energy is sustainable abundance for all.
6:05Elon MuskSo if you think about like, what is the future that would. What's the most exciting future that you could possibly imagine? Like, what does that future look like? It's worth thinking about that.
6:17Elon MuskJust think, just in, just, just imagine a future. What does that, that amazing future look like? How about a future where you can have any good or service you want at will?
6:34Elon MuskA future of abundance for all, where really anyone can have anything. It sounds impossible. It sounds like surely such a thing cannot be the case. But what I'm here to tell you is that that will indeed be the case, that the future we're headed for is one where you can literally just have anything you want.
6:56Elon MuskLike if there's a good or service you want, you'll be able to have it. And ultimately everyone in the world will be able to have anything they want. What's key to that is robotics and AI.
7:11Elon MuskSo once you have self driving cars and you have autonomous humanoid robots where everyone can have their own personal C3PO and R2D2. But even better than that, that's Optimus.
7:24Elon MuskYou can imagine like your own personal robot buddy that is a great friend, but also takes care of your house, will clean your house, will mow the lawn, will walk the dog, will teach your kids, will babysit, and will also enable the production of goods and services basically with no limit.
7:53Elon MuskAnd when you combine that with sustainable energy from the sun and batteries, we could also at the same time also maintain a great environment. So that I think is the future that we want.
8:06Elon MuskA future where nobody's in need, you can have what you want, but we still have nature. We still have, you know, the beautiful parts of nature that we like.
8:24Elon MuskI think that's probably the best future. I can't. What other future would you want? I think that's like the cool future. And also space travel, let's not forget that.
8:34Elon MuskSo if you can have basically anything you want and travel to space and go to Mars and that would be, it's about as good as it gets, you know, it's like that's it.
8:45Elon MuskSo that's really what we're, what we're trying to do is take the set of actions most likely to lead to a great future for all. So that's what I mean by sustainable abundance.
8:59Elon MuskAnd the combination of things that we're making with Optimus and AI Compute will achieve an age of abundance for all. Like actually so it's going to be pretty great.
9:21Elon MuskModel Y became the best selling vehicle in the world. You know, FYI, we do make the best, you know,
9:38Elon MuskIt's how we're doing our popularity well, we actually literally make the best selling car on Earth of any kind. So that's for two years in a row. And it's going to be the best selling car on Earth again this year.
9:53Elon MuskSo.
10:00Elon MuskThe Cybertruck became the best selling electric vehicle pickup instantly because it's awesome. And Tesla was the best selling electricity electric vehicle in Europe, the fastest growing brand in South Korea.
10:15Elon MuskAnd we launched in a lot of new markets including Qatar, Lithuania, Chile and the Philippines. And we'll be opening in a whole bunch more markets as well. So Teslas will be available worldwide.
10:27Elon MuskSo overall, you know, it's good. If you read the news, it feels like, you know, Armageddon. So I was like, I can't walk past the TV without seeing a Tesla on fire.
10:37Elon MuskLike, what's going on? You know, some people, it's like, listen, I understand if you don't want to buy our product, but you don't have to burn it down. That's a bit unreasonable.
10:45Elon MuskYou know, this is psycho. Stop being psycho.
10:52AudienceOkay,
10:56Elon Muskso. And we launched the new Model Y. Congrats to the team on fafsa.
11:02AudienceSo,
11:07Elon MuskYou know, that's, that's obviously very tough because we've got factories all across the world and we've got a change over a global, a supply chain on three, three, three.
11:17Elon MuskBasically three supply chains on three continents. And I think you did an amazing job of switching over the world's best selling car globally in a, in a very short period of time.
11:30Elon MuskWell done, guys.
11:38Elon MuskAnd let's not forget also, we upgraded Model 3 last year, so I would encourage people to also buy the Model 3. It's a great car actually. So. And the cybertruck is achieved five star safety.
11:54Elon MuskYou know, these days, you know, sometimes things get a little dangerous in the neighborhood. The cybertruck being bulletproof and all can come in handy. So. But apart from being bulletproof, it's also very safe in a crash.
12:11Elon MuskWe're also building the Tesla semi factory. This is a vehicle that some people said was impossible to build, that it defied physics. Well, not only does it not defy physics, we're going to be making a lot of them.
12:25Elon MuskSo we're going to make just a. You know, I think ultimately we'll make over a million, millions probably of the Tesla semi. And this is really going to be something that you'll see all over the place.
12:39Elon MuskAnd it'll also be autonomous or have the ability to be, to go autonomous down the road. So really autonomy is a massive, massive thing. The future is autonomous. So I always sort of think like, what will the future look like in five years or 10 years, 20 years and five years from now, autonomous cars are going to be everywhere.
13:11Elon MuskPrimarily going to be Teslas, by the way, but autonomous Teslas will be everywhere. And I think in five years probably we'll, we'll have regulatory approval, I think globally. So you'll have autonomous Teslas on every continent taking people on trips.
13:31Elon MuskAnd almost the entire fleet, which will pass 10 million vehicles next year, is capable of full autonomy. So it, even without the, the Cyber Cab, we still actually have a gigantic fleet that is capable of being autonomous.
13:49Elon MuskAnd the thing about being an autonomous car is that it can be used much more than a car that is not autonomous. A typical passenger vehicle car will be used about 10 hours a week.
13:59Elon MuskSo it might use it. People might use it for an hour and a half a day on average for seven days, which is about 10 hours a week. But there are 168 hours in a week.
14:08Elon MuskSo if you have a car that's a robot car that can drive autonomously, it can now be used potentially for 80, maybe 100 hours a week. So you could have a car that has 10 times the usefulness of a non autonomous car, but it still costs the same.
14:27Elon MuskIn fact, the fleets are already built, so the software update just enables that capability. Overnight you have an increase in usefulness of 10 million cars that suddenly become like 50 million cars or maybe 80 or 100 million cars of usefulness overnight.
14:49Elon MuskThat's a profound thing. Like nothing like that has ever happened before. There is no analogy that there's no, nothing is. There's never been something where a software update increase the value of a gigantic asset base by a factor of like 500 to 1000%.
15:10Elon MuskSo it's very difficult for like, you know, people in the stock market, especially those that look in the rear view mirror, which is most people, to imagine a future where suddenly a 10 million vehicle fleet has 5 to 10 times the usefulness.
15:31Elon MuskIt's so profound and there's no comparison with anything in the past that they just can't. It does not compute. But it will compute in the future. And some people like Cathy Wood at Ark Invest, do see the future.
15:49Elon MuskSo what I'm saying is hang on to your stock. So,
16:04Elon MuskSo yeah, it's, it's really, it's mind blowing. Then I want to give a shout out to service. Service is a tough job, an important job, and it's actually what sells cars long term, you know, because the initial car is sold with sales, but all future cars are sold with service.
16:27Elon MuskAnd I always encourage our service team, like, let's try to give people a service experience that they love, not merely that they like, but that they love. Because people will talk about something that they love that was an amazing experience.
16:38Elon MuskBut they don't talk that much about things that they like. You have to really do something amazing and then they'll talk about it and be like, wow, that's incredible.
16:46Elon MuskSo thank you to the service team for the great job you do.
16:58Elon MuskAnd I mean, you can see sort of, I like this sort of light map of superchargers. You can see, you can go practically anywhere in the US, Mexico, Europe, China, most.
17:11Elon MuskWell, I guess not the outback of Australia, but. But, you know, most of the places where people live. So our Supercharged network continues to grow significantly and we keep upgrading our Superchargers.
17:26Elon MuskThis is, in fact, I still run into a lot of people who don't realize that you can drive. You take your Tesla on a road trip anywhere in America or anywhere in Europe, anywhere, pretty much anywhere in China just using the Tesla Supercharger network.
17:39Elon MuskAnd it's actually easy and convenient. So people think that they're whatever the range of the car is, that's as far as they can go. Like, no, you can just stop at a supercharged network.
17:48Elon MuskThe car's battery will last longer than your bladder. I'm pretty confident. So that's really the threshold. As long as the car battery lasts longer than your bladder and you just plug it in when you go to the restroom and you come back and, you know, grab a coffee or whatever, and you're back on the road and everything's good, then that's the range that matters and the supercharging speed that matters.
18:10Elon MuskSo, yeah. So congrats to the Supercharger team on expanding network. You did great work there.
18:25Elon MuskAnd then, I mean, the Megapack and Powerwall team are really knocking it out of the park. The demand for. For stationary battery storage is gigantic, and I think that is actually only going to increase dramatically over time.
18:38Elon MuskSo. And we've got the Shanghai Megafactory that got started in record time in February. Congrats to the Shanghai factory team there. That's awesome.
18:55Elon MuskAnd the Powerwall 3 is. It usually takes about three. Three major technology iterations for the product to be great. And the Powerwall 3 really is a fantastic home energy product.
19:07Elon MuskAnd it's something that if you want to have ensure that your home has uninterrupted power during a power outage, the Powerwall 3 is the way to go. And if you combine that with solar, you can basically be off grid, which is pretty cool.
19:22Elon MuskBut I think just having energy insurance, like being energy assurance, such that if the. If the utility goes down, you don't even notice, like the lights are on in your house and your neighbors will come to you for help, basically.
19:37Elon MuskThat's actually what happens when somebody has a Tesla powerwall and there's a power outage. So that's a great product. And then, yeah, Megapack, especially at the utility scale, is that the opportunity there is gigantic because it's.
19:52Elon MuskIt enables a utility grid to dramatically increase the output of electricity because you can Generate electricity at night, and then Megapack can provide that electricity during the day. Because normal electricity demand is very uneven.
20:06Elon MuskThere's a lot of electricity usage during the day, but limited at night. So Megapack actually has the potential to increase the output of an existing electricity grid by more than double.
20:19Elon MuskSo you can actually, without building additional power plants, double the total output of energy in a year. So it's quite a profound thing. Yeah. So Megapack is also really good at stabilizing the grid.
20:34Elon MuskSo if there's variations in power in the grid, the Megapack can absorb. If there's a big power spike, it can absorb and store the power. And then if there's a drop in power, it can fill in the gap.
20:47Elon MuskSo it's. Megapack is excellent for stabilizing the grid. And obviously it matches very well with wind and solar. In fact, satellites are just solar panels and a battery. That's how all satellites work.
21:06Elon MuskAnd with the Starlink satellite network, there's 7,000 satellites orbiting the Earth and all they use is solar panels and a battery. And my prediction is long term, a majority of power on Earth, in fact, eventually it might be like 90% or more of all power on Earth will be solar panels with batteries.
21:28Elon MuskThat's my prediction. My predictions have pretty good track record.
21:36Tesla filmSo.
21:37Elon MuskYeah. And the power walls can also act as kind of a virtual grid. So if you have thousands of power walls in a neighborhood, they can actually work, work in concert to stabilize the grid.
21:49Elon MuskThe B4 supercharger is pretty cool. It enables charging at 500 kilowatts and the semi can charge at 1.2 megawatts. So it's. And it's smaller and lighter. It's a big improvement overall.
22:06Elon MuskAnd we're rolling this out worldwide. So it will increase charging speeds and yeah, just enable you to get your car charged really fast. And then with regard to cell manufacturing, we were, at this point, we think we're making the most efficient cell in the world.
22:29Elon MuskMeaning like the, the lowest cost per kilowatt hour cell. So which is really pretty, pretty good. Like there are entire companies that all they do is make lithium ion battery cells.
22:42Elon MuskAnd for us, that's one of many things that we do. So congratulations to the cell team on making the best cell.
23:00Elon MuskSo that's, that's really a big deal. And then we're. We're also investing in the whole battery supply chain. So we have cathode production, we have lithium refining and. And then more.
23:17Elon MuskYeah, hopefully. We're sort of hoping someone else will do the, the anode we might have to do the anode. I hope someone else does it. Why do we have to do all these things?
23:30Elon MuskA lot of people think like we do this thing a lot of these things because we want to, but really it's often just because we didn't have any choice.
23:37Elon MuskNobody else was doing it, so we had to do it. So, so yeah, a lot of new factory milestones. So in Berlin we produced 660,000 drive units. Fremont. We built our first Optimus at the Optimus production line in Fremont.
23:55Elon MuskWe're preparing for Cybercap production here at Gigafactory Austin and Gigafactory Shanghai created its 3 millionth car. We've produced 160,000 NACS adapters at Gigafactory New York and we've got record battery pack production at Gigafactory Nevada.
24:14Elon MuskSo congrats to everyone.
24:25Elon MuskWe also, just behind us in the, on the south side of the building we have the Tesla we call Cortex 1. It's like basically a giant brain computer brain that is used for AI training.
24:40Elon MuskSo, so we take the vast amounts of video that we get from all the cars in the fleet and we use that to train the artificial intelligence to be able to drive the car.
24:49Elon MuskAnd this is one of the most powerful training systems in the world with over 50,000 GPUs active and soon to be 100,000 GPUs which will make it I think probably top five in the world in training centers.
25:13Elon MuskWe're also continuing to make progress on our dojo training super supercomputer. So we've got Dojo 1 active now in Gigafactory New York and in Palo Alto. And it's, it is actively working.
25:27Elon MuskIt's actually taking load on it. It's, it's, it's doing a meaningful percentage Well I guess 5% or whatever, but it's still something 5 maybe approaching 10% of the training load of, of the self driving AI is being done by Dojo.
25:49Elon MuskAnd then we've got Dojo 2 that's coming down the line that'll be probably 10 times better than Dojo 1. And so it's sort of exciting. We're making good progress with Dojo.
26:01Elon MuskI'm increasingly optimistic about the future of Dojo. I think it's, we got a real shot here at, at a breakthrough. So congrats to the Dojo team.
26:18Elon MuskAnd the all Tesla vehicles have now had what we call autopilot hardware for, or really our AI4 hardware. And it's a, it's really, it's very powerful AI inference computer and, and, but also operates at very low power.
26:36Elon MuskAnd even to this day, even though this was a, this has been something we designed several years ago, there actually isn't anything on the market that we can buy that is better than AI4.
26:46Elon MuskSo. And obviously in the future years we'll have a 5 and a 6. Sometimes people say, should I wait? I'm like, well, we're always going to have another version, so there's no point in waiting because you'll be waiting forever.
26:58Elon MuskSo but we obviously will have an AI 5 and an AI 6 and a 7 and we'll keep improving the, the AI compute. So for those out there that are interested in developing advanced chips, come work at Tesla.
27:16Elon MuskAnd it is always, I think, profound to watch our cars driving with no one in them. And we actually have the cars doing useful work for the first time with no one in them, which I think is really, it's a significant milestone.
27:34Elon MuskSo the cars are driving from end of line in Fremont to park themselves. And I think we've just started doing that here in Austin. So we'll be. The car literally goes from underline in Fremont to its destination parking spot where it gets picked up by a truck for delivery to a customer.
27:56Elon MuskAnd it does that with no one in it. And it's not doing that all day, every day. Like it, you know, pretty much like it's just a matter of fact thing.
28:08Elon MuskYeah. So, yeah. And obviously for anyone that's using it, you can see the dramatic improvements in full self driving where it's getting to the point where interventions are extremely rare and eventually they'll get to the point where there really is no need to intervene.
28:30Elon MuskLike the car is going to be better than human. In fact, maybe it's worth emphasizing that it's not that Tesla full self driving will be equal to humans in safety.
28:41Elon MuskIt will be ultimately 10 times safer than a human because it never gets tired. It doesn't, you know, it like humans get tired and sometimes get wasted, you
28:52Audienceknow,
28:54Elon Muskand we'll have arguments or change the radio or you know, text. I know no one in this audience would ever text while driving. That'd be crazy. But you know, it does happen.
29:06Elon MuskSo. So the reality is that Tesla full stop driving will be vastly safer than humans. Not just equivalent, it will be actually vastly safer. And it means you can do whatever you want while driving.
29:20Elon MuskSo even if you don't like rent your car out for usage, you can still. It frees up your time. So let's say you're driving 10, 12 hours, a week or more.
29:32Elon MuskIt gives you back 10 to 12 hours of your life, which is extremely cool.
29:40Elon MuskSo. Well, Optimus sure has come a long way.
29:55Elon MuskSo the new Optimus, a 22 degree of freedom hand and forearm, is now in production and it's learning to walk and catch balls. It's pretty cool. I mean, look, that's where we came from.
30:12Elon MuskIt's wild. So in a very short period of time, Optimus has gone from being an idea to the most sophisticated humanoid robot on earth. There's nothing even close to the level of sophistication of Optimus.
30:28Elon MuskAnd Tesla has some important missing ingredients that others don't have, which is our robot has a real brain. It's like wizard of Oz, Tin Man. Was that a heart or a brain?
30:43Elon MuskOne of the two. So.
30:52Elon MuskIt's got the real world AI. So it, Tesla's the leader in real world AI. What we learned in the car, we translate to the Optimus robot. And we also take our expertise in electric motors, in batteries, power electronics, structural design.
31:08Elon MuskAnd then another major important thing is that we're very good at manufacturing. So. So in order for robots to be useful, they have to be intelligent, they have to be able to do useful things just by asking, and you have to be able to make a large number of them at an affordable price.
31:26Elon MuskThis is what we can do. We have. The only company with all the ingredients for making intelligent humanoid robots at scale is Tesla. This is a super big deal.
31:39Elon MuskLike, my prediction is that on this front is that Optimus will be the biggest product of all time by far. Nothing will even be close. It'll be, I think it'll be ten times bigger than the next biggest product ever made.
31:58Elon MuskLike that level. So,
32:12Elon MuskYeah. All right, so with that, anybody have any questions?
32:25Elon MuskHey. Congratulations. Thank you. Cool. And we're Rocket castings. Yes, we do. Yeah. Where do you see or where would you like our focus next? Well, we do want to make, we want to scale up production to new heights, obviously with, with the Cyber Cab, you know, we're going to be.
32:54Elon MuskCybercab is not just revolutionary car design, it's also a revolutionary manufacturing process. So I guess we probably don't talk about that enough. But if you've seen the design of the Cybercab line, it doesn't look like a normal car manufacturing line.
33:13Elon MuskIt looks like a really high speed consumer electronics line. It's in fact, the line will move so fast that actually people can't even get close to it. Like that's, you know, I, I think it's It'll be able to produce a car ultimately in less than five seconds.
33:32Elon MuskLike, can you imagine a car coming offline in less than five seconds? That's. That's like, whoa.
33:38Tesla filmWhich.
33:38Elon MuskWhich means casting's got to happen fast. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we got. We got to jam the liquid metal in, cool it down real fast. Like, real fast.
33:49Elon MuskAnd then I guess maybe we need to, like, just get even bigger casting machines. Sure, why not? You know, down. Yeah, let's. 50,000 tons, you know, because, like, then we can make within a single casting machine.
34:05Elon MuskWe could do like, five at a time or something. You know, trying to think, like, how do you scale castings? Because you got liquid metal. Metal's got a cool.
34:18Elon MuskAnd then you've got to automate, you know, getting all the bits and pieces off the casting so it's usable. And that's actually kind of how they do it in, like, small volume castings.
34:27Elon MuskThey'll, like, do have a casting block that'll make, like, you know, 100 Matchbox cars at a time. Maybe we just make that real big. Yeah, I mean, we have the cathedral of casting back there.
34:40Elon MuskSo. Yeah, let's do that. I mean, like, let's. Let's see.
34:45Audience questionWhat.
34:45Elon MuskWhat is the limit of. What is the limit of physics, of how big can a casting machine be? Let's find out.
34:53AudienceI'm gay.
34:54Elon MuskI'm down. Let's have some fun here. Push the limits of technology. All right.
35:01Tesla filmHi, Elon. I've been with Tesla for the last eight years. It has been the most exhilarating eight years of my career. And truly, truly want to thank you for your leadership.
35:10Tesla filmI also have two little.
35:11Elon MuskThank you for your contribution.
35:12Tesla filmThank you. Thank you for your leadership.
35:18Tesla filmI also have two little girls who spend their weekends cruising around in their very awesome cybertruck. I'd love to know when we can add Optimus to the family.
35:27Elon MuskOh, yeah, It's a good question. So this year, we hopefully will be able to make about 5,000 Optimus robots. We're technically, we're aiming for enough parts to make 10,000, maybe 12,000.
35:46Elon MuskBut since it's a totally new product with totally new, you know, like, everything is totally new. I'll say, like, we're succeeding if we get to half of the 10, you know, half of the 10,000.
35:57Elon MuskBut even 5,000 robots, that's the size of a Roman legion, FYI, which is like, a little scary thought, like a whole legion of robots. I'd be like, whoa, okay.
36:07Elon MuskBut I think. I think we will literally Build a legion. At least one legion of robots this year and then probably 10 legions next year. And it's kind of a cool unit, you know, units of legion.
36:24Elon MuskSo probably 50,000 ish next year. And then it's probably ready for. To. I'm hopefully ready for Optimus to be used outside of Tesla controlled environment, maybe around the middle of next year, second half of next year sometime.
36:41Elon MuskSo. So that's. I think that sounds about right. Probably second half of next year is when they'll be available and then we will offer Optimus robots first to Tesla employees.
36:56Elon MuskSo you guys get the priority.
37:04Elon MuskThere are some pluses and minuses to that, you know, because it's probably have a few bugs, but it's going to be very cool. You definitely, you'll want to invite your friends over and say, check us out.
37:21Elon MuskSo that's the other questions. Hi, Elon. Hey, my name's Dom. I've been here for a little over a year now. I work in people development. Okay. We try to.
37:31Elon MuskWe make so many amazing things right now. It's still the people that do it. Yes. When we think about applying first principles to the relationships and the teams that people have, how would you encourage us to think about that and act on those first principles when it comes to relationships and teams?
38:02Elon MuskWell, I think, you know, there are actually quite a few things I've written over the years that it would be good to compile into like a, I don't know, booklet or something because I actually have to be reminded of those things myself.
38:18Elon MuskAnd I'm like, oh, you remember that thing that I thought of after making so many mistakes and trying to make fewer mistakes. So you know, there's like, for example, at like five step process of like make the requirements less dumb and then try to delete the part and process step only, then optimize only then speed it up.
38:37Elon MuskAnd only the fifth thing is automate. I have to repeat that to myself many times because I've made the mistake of doing it backwards so many times. And you know, I think always operating on the principle that everyone is wrong to some degree and we should aspire to be less wrong over time, which we will not always succeed in doing.
39:02Elon MuskBut if, you know, if two days out of three you're less wrong over time you're going to be, your batting average is going to be really good. So nobody ever bats a thousand, but you can improve your batting average.
39:15Elon MuskSo I think rigorous, you know, you want to critique yourself, you want to internalize responsibility. And these are all things I Need to remind myself of, you know, just to be clear, I'm not like suggesting I internalize responsibility, be less wrong.
39:36Elon MuskAnd we should remember what, we should remember what is our goal as a company? Our goal is to make amazing products that people love and then to take care of those products, service.
39:47Elon MuskSo we should say, what are we doing to make our products better, to make them more affordable, to have the customer experience be delightful. Because that's actually the purpose of a company.
40:02Elon MuskSometimes people get, why does a company exist? A company exists. It's a group of people collected together to produce a compelling product or service that others find useful and where the value of the product and service is greater than the cost of what it took to make that product or service.
40:22Elon MuskSo sometimes, weirdly, profit is like, viewed negatively, but really profit is just the difference in value between the output and the input. It's like, what did it cost you to make it and what did it cost you?
40:36Elon MuskAnd what are people prepared to pay for it? That's the value that you created. So it's tough actually even to maintain like a 10% profitability, which is to make that, make the output 10% more valuable than the input.
40:52Elon MuskIt's actually quite hard, especially in the car industry, which is very competitive. So we should not lose sight of like, why are we here? We're here to make useful products that people love, you know, and take care of the, take care of them over time.
41:06Elon MuskSo then how are we doing in that respect and how can we do that better? So, sure.
41:24Elon MuskWhat advice would you give a young person, like, getting into the stock market? Like, oh, stock advice. Wow. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. As I think people can perhaps tell who are watching this, these, these questions are not prepared in advance.
41:43Elon MuskThis is literally random questions from the crowd, which is cool, actually, I'm fine with that. And I think that it's going to sound very straightforward, but you want to really buy stock in companies where you think the product that that company makes will be better in the future.
42:06Elon MuskIs that company going to make more and better products? Or like, do you love the products that the company makes and are they going to keep doing that? And like, I think Tesla, as I've just gone through Tesla, is going to, has a track record of having made many great products and we're going to make many more future great products and we're going to scale up production and I think we've demonstrated a level of innovation that is extremely rare.
42:37Elon MuskI mean, certainly by far the most innovative company in the car industry. Like, not even close Type of thing. So you know, I do think Tesla stock actually long, I think long term with optimus and self driving Tesla will probably be the most valuable company in the world.
42:58Elon MuskBut there are also other companies out there that make great products and services. So I think that's the way you want to look at it. Say like is, do you do think this product.
43:06Elon MuskBecause that's the reason why companies exist is to make great products and services. So if you think that a company is going to improve over time, then buy the stock and if you don't, then don't.
43:16Elon MuskAnd then the stock market is, it's a very strange thing. It's kind of like, you know, I think it's Warren Buffett sort of metaphor analogy is you know, stock markets like having someone stand at the edge of your property or your house and yell prices.
43:37Elon MuskAbout to buy or sell your house every day. And like sometimes they take their meds and sometimes they don't, you know, so sometimes the person yelling out the price of your house is having a good day or, and sometimes they're having a bad day, but it's still the same house.
43:55Elon MuskYou're like, I'm like literally still the same house. Like, you know, so Tesla stock goes up and it goes down, but actually it's still the same company. It's just people's perception of the future.
44:09Elon MuskI don't know, I guess it's just very emotional, you know, so but for me, like while it's difficult to predict how things will be from, you know, in the next say six to 12 months, if you say like where will things be in three years or five years?
44:27Elon MuskThe future of Tesla is incredibly bright.
44:40Elon MuskHi. Hi.
44:49Elon MuskYes.
44:54Elon MuskYou say, will the robot take your job or what? That's a fair question. Well, so yeah, like is a robot going to come steal your job? A reasonable question.
45:08Elon MuskI think what, what we'll find with robots is that there'll be a ratio of people to robots. So you'll effectively end up having, managing a group of robots. So you know, you'll have like, basically, I don't know, your flock or your little group of robots that you take care of and you tell them what to do and I don't know, you'll have a pack of robots.
45:35Elon MuskBasically. Yeah, you're promoted to manager. One way to think of it, I think the same thing will be true of cars. Like so for the self driving cars is that people that are say, you know, Uber drivers today or something like that, or taxi drivers today will end up managing a fleet of Cars and, and that'll be a much more effective use of their time.
46:03Elon MuskYou know, just taking care of like 10, 20 cars or however many they can take care of.
46:09Audience questionSo.
46:10Elon MuskYeah. Hello, my name is Adrian. You said that your companies are made to make products people love. Yeah. Have you ever thought of airplanes or trains? Yeah, I mean, I'd actually love to make airplanes especially, but stretched pretty thin.
46:31Elon MuskSo I have like 17 jobs at this point. I just go to sleep, work, go to sleep and then do that seven days a week pretty much. People say like, where do you go on vacation?
46:45Elon MuskI'm like, what's that? You know? But I guess I like being productive. I like getting things done. So I guess I could choose to be like on an island somewhere sipping a Mai tai, you know, with attractive people in bikinis and stuff.
47:03Elon MuskWait, why am I not doing that?
47:05AudienceWhat.
47:06Elon MuskWhat a fool I've been.
47:11Elon MuskSo,
47:14Audienceyeah,
47:16Elon MuskI've actually thought about aircraft designs for a long time and I think there's an interesting opportunity to make like an electric supersonic VTOL jet. You know, the VTOL is like cherry on the cake, but certainly long range, fast electric airplane would be very cool.
47:41Elon MuskYou know, maybe at some point we'll do that. Yeah, that'd be kind of fun. We do have the ingredients for it, so.
47:57Elon MuskAnd then there is the potential for. We're like thinking like pretty far into the future here of not, not a, not a conventional train, but that sort of hyperloop essentially vacuum tunnels.
48:13Elon MuskLike tunnels where you draw a vacuum so there's no air resistance and you have very high speed autonomous electric pods in a vacuum tube vacuum tunnel that would allow you to go from city center to city center much faster than any airplane could possibly go.
48:36Elon MuskBecause going into the, into the, an underground vacuum tunnel would, it'd be like teleporting to super high altitude effectively, which no plane could do. And then it could deliver you right to the center of a city.
48:53Elon MuskAnd that, I don't know, maybe that's some future collaboration with boring company and Tesla. I got a million ideas. The ideas are. I had more ideas than I know what to do with.
49:04Elon MuskIdeas are kind of the easy part. Execution is the hard part, as they say. It's 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration
49:13Audiencework in manufacturing engineering since 2018. I've done a bunch of different things here, kind of like energy products, model 3, model Y, cyber. And now we're looking forward to Optimus, maybe the biggest product ever.
49:26Elon MuskYeah, it will be.
49:28AudienceAnd I think about the mission statement of the company and it's evolved. It used to be a sustainable transportation, then sustainable energy. Is it going to evolve again? Are we going to reformulate that officially to kind of explain to the world better about how Optimus and AI folds into the rest of the fabric of the company?
49:49Elon MuskYeah, I mean, I touched on this briefly earlier, but you're right that I think we do need to articulate it more prominently and maybe more often, because it's really about sustainable abundance.
50:05Elon MuskYou know, can we have a future of abundance for all that is also sustainable and compatible with nature? So we're not destroying nature, but you also get abundance for everyone on Earth.
50:19Elon MuskSounds like the best possible future. That's what we're trying to do. Yeah.
50:31Audience questionYes, sir, my name is Aaron Armstrong. Yes, sir, my name is Aaron Armstrong. It's not every day that you get to be in the presence of somebody that's accumulated so much wealth and success.
50:44Audience questionSo I just wanted to take this opportunity to ask for any wisdoms or secrets that you may have to offer about this game of life that we're all trying to play.
50:53Elon MuskSure. I mean, I try to tell say everything that I know. Although admittedly sometimes, you know, like, I posted on X, I guess. Should I ask the AI to look through all of my X posts and pick out the ones that are really good?
51:10Elon MuskBecause I try to say any, you know, good ideas that I have, I try to post them. Yeah. I think generally it's good to always be curious and to, you know, to read widely.
51:28Elon MuskLike, read a lot of interesting books, especially history. I find history really interesting. And I find, like, biographies and autobiographies to be also very interesting. You know, I think it's good to read especially autobiographies where, like, you know, somebody's done something incredible and they wrote.
51:51Elon MuskThey wrote the book themselves or mostly themselves. That'll give you a lot of ideas. And I mean, something that I do is I'll get audio books because I got, like, so much going on in my mind when I.
52:08Elon MuskIt's kind of hard to go to sleep because it's like having a computer browser with like 100 tabs open. That's by the end of the day, I got like 100 tabs open.
52:17Elon MuskLike, how do I close this browser? You know, that's my brain. So then I'll listen to an audiobook and I'll put it on a timer, and it's like 15 minutes.
52:27Elon MuskIt's like being like being read a bedtime story by your phone. So podcasts and audiobooks, especially during at Bedtime or I find are great.
52:44Elon MuskSure.
52:58Elon MuskSorry, I can't hear you. Oh, there's a city in South Texas which is Starbase. So it's a city for it's cities. Maybe sound makes it sound bigger than it is, but it is.
53:12Elon MuskIt's a really a small town plus a giant rocket factory. That's Starbase and it's South Texas and Starbase Texas right by the Rio Grande. And you can just literally drive there because it's on the like a state highway.
53:33Elon MuskSo you just drive through it, check it out. So I do own a piece of property that's just across the river that's kind of cool. It used to be like a, like a horse place, like where they would give horse riding lessons stuff.
53:52Elon MuskAnd at some point I think it would be cool to. I want to do like this gigantic art project there that's like a. Looks like an alien planet like right across the river.
54:05Elon MuskBut like that people could visit, you know, so then I might like live there occasionally. But really it's a place to like, I don't know, to envision sort of an alien planet art project across the river.
54:20Elon MuskBe kind of cool. Yeah, yeah.
54:37Elon MuskTo spend money digital assets. Did we foresee like Tesla created a product that can help boost how we scale. Do we foresee Tesla making a product that helps how we spend money?
54:59Elon MuskWell, I think the AI is going to help us spend money better. Um, it's kind of amazing, you know, what AI can do these days. I don't know if anyone here has used Grok, but it's pretty cool.
55:12Elon MuskGrok voice can be really pretty great too. I should try Grok Unhinged. It's like it's guaranteed to be entertaining at a party. I 1000% promise you if you, if you try Grok Voice Unhinged at a party, this will be a very, it's going to be a big hit.
55:31Elon MuskSo. But you can also ask it any questions. So like if you want to ask questions about like you know, life advice or things that, or anything like you can really ask like you can ask it about cryptocurrency if you want.
55:45Elon MuskYou can ask it about medical advice. You can ask any. It's actually, it's very good and it's getting better. So you know, I think more use of try using Grok.
55:57Elon MuskIt's like, it's really pretty cool. Yeah, sure.
56:09Elon MuskPlan are we in and how long does it go? Yeah, so we're in phase three of the master plan. Since master plan one and two have been completed. Completed Now Master Plan part three is a very long master plan because it's basically making all energy on Earth sustainable and I actually need to supplement it with the sort of abundance for all.
56:42Elon MuskMaybe That's Master Plan 4. I've kind of described Master Plan 4 essentially, which is like autonomous cars, autonomous humanoid robots. You combine that with like solar and battery storage and I think the future is going to be incredible.
57:06Elon MuskSo I'll take a couple more questions and call it a night. Well, if you haven't asked a question before, you can ask questions.
57:13Audience questionQuestion.
57:15AudienceOk.
57:16Elon MuskAlmost three years. My question is when will we see some optimus robots with the production team? Oh well, there are actually some optimus robots being built in Fremont right now.
57:29Elon MuskSo we'll not sure what that was, but so, but we expect to have an Optimus production line here as well. So there'll be optimus production starting in the Bay Area and then we'll have the even bigger Optimus production line here in Austin.
57:53Elon MuskYeah, there's going to be a lot of robots ultimately. I mean I think there'll be, we'll be making tens of millions of robots a year. 10 of thing. It's like serious volume, maybe 100 million robots a year.
58:12Elon MuskIt's wild. Yeah. All right, one last question. Okay.
58:26Elon MuskIt's about sustainability.
58:27Tesla filmAbundance.
58:28Elon MuskAbundance, yes. Well, yes. I mean obviously Utopia could be dystopia. So we have to like usually any story about utopia ends up being dystopia. We want to avoid that.
58:41Elon MuskBut nonetheless, I think if you say what future? What's the best future you can think of? I think a future of sustainable abundance plus space travel. That's pretty great.
58:56AudienceYeah.
59:04Elon MuskOh, we need, we need adversity.
59:15Elon MuskWell, I mean you make a good point. Like we like if things actually get too easy, maybe we get bored and we're not. You kind of want to some degree overcome adversity.
59:28Elon MuskYou know, it's like if you play a game of some kind, you want the game to be not too easy and not too hard and maybe the future will be too easy potentially is what you're saying.
59:40Elon MuskIt's a high class problem, you know, but I think we'll still have human to human competitions. If you look at say athletics or even mind games like chess, although computers can beat any human at chess, chess is actually at an all time high in popularity.
1:00:04Elon MuskAnd although you know, cars can go faster than any humans, we still have athletic sports where humans compete against each other. So I think we'll still have human versus human competitiveness.
1:00:20Elon MuskI think long term we will also have enhancement of humans, or optionally, if somebody wants to enhance, like, have, like, cybernetic enhancements, like with neuralink. You know, if you want to go, go cybernetic and, I don't know, maybe have, like, super intelligence and be able to see, you know, in different wavelengths.
1:00:45Elon MuskWe could absolutely provide superhuman abilities fire via neuralink in the future. So one thing's for sure, the future is going to be very interesting. In fact, I think the most.
1:01:03Elon MuskGenerally, I find that the most interesting outcome is the most likely. Or said another way, maybe the most entertaining outcome, especially if ironic, is the most likely. It's almost like we're in a alien Netflix series that's trying to have the highest possible ratings.
1:01:26Elon MuskAnd, like, if you think about it, like, that's kind of what happens, you know? Which it doesn't mean it's always good because to your point, you wouldn't really want to watch a show where things are great and stay great and, like, oh, that's boring.
1:01:41Elon MuskYou want to watch a show where there's, like, a narrative arc where things go up and they go down, they go back up again, and you don't know exactly what's going to happen next.
1:01:53Elon MuskAnd I think we might be in an alien Netflix series here, so we're just going to keep the ratings up so we don't get canceled. All right, thank you, guys.